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	<title>Comments on: Most Annoying Bug Ever</title>
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	<description>Living in a state of accord.</description>
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		<title>By: Kurs</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-105524</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you by any chance recommend a tutorial for use with SSL and apache?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you by any chance recommend a tutorial for use with SSL and apache?</p>
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		<title>By: Symphonious &#187; Server Down-Time</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-69341</link>
		<dc:creator>Symphonious &#187; Server Down-Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know. I&#39;ll probably make an attempt to upgrade to PHP5 and fiddle with the SSL set up now that the most annoying bug in the world is fixed. There&#39;s probably a bunch of other stuff I&#160;can actually do now that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know. I&#39;ll probably make an attempt to upgrade to PHP5 and fiddle with the SSL set up now that the most annoying bug in the world is fixed. There&#39;s probably a bunch of other stuff I&#160;can actually do now that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ringer</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-68747</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the best solution to this was to run my client-cert-mandatory SSL virtual host on a non-standard high port, leaving port 443 for tasks that didn't require a client cert. Clumsy, but effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the best solution to this was to run my client-cert-mandatory SSL virtual host on a non-standard high port, leaving port 443 for tasks that didn&#8217;t require a client cert. Clumsy, but effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Sutton</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-68486</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, removing the name based virtual hosts, moving the SSLVerifyClient directives outside of any Location elements and disabling the potential for basic authentication seems to make it work. Yay! Now of course I have no fall back to basic authentication when I'm on a browser that doesn't have my client certificate and no way to access my blog's admin page since it's on the name based virtual host that I just disabled and it's set to require SSL. I guess that's the next piece of the puzzle to set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, removing the name based virtual hosts, moving the SSLVerifyClient directives outside of any Location elements and disabling the potential for basic authentication seems to make it work. Yay! Now of course I have no fall back to basic authentication when I&#8217;m on a browser that doesn&#8217;t have my client certificate and no way to access my blog&#8217;s admin page since it&#8217;s on the name based virtual host that I just disabled and it&#8217;s set to require SSL. I guess that&#8217;s the next piece of the puzzle to set up.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Sutton</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-68485</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, removing the virtual hosts doesn't help either. From the comments on the bug it sounds like any time the first connection to the server has post content (like say, the stuff the subversion protocol sends) it fails. So, no client certificates for me. Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, removing the virtual hosts doesn&#8217;t help either. From the comments on the bug it sounds like any time the first connection to the server has post content (like say, the stuff the subversion protocol sends) it fails. So, no client certificates for me. Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, I was going to say that's what I'm doing already, but I'm actually using name based virtual hosts which is pretty stupid for SSL now that I think about it. Might have to investigate not making *:443 a name virtual host and see where that leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, I was going to say that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing already, but I&#8217;m actually using name based virtual hosts which is pretty stupid for SSL now that I think about it. Might have to investigate not making *:443 a name virtual host and see where that leads.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron Ellacott</title>
		<link>http://www.symphonious.net/2007/03/27/most-annoying-bug-ever/#comment-68440</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron Ellacott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, we've been working around this bug for a long time now here at APNIC.  You can resolve it by ensuring that the strongest authentication you will need is negotiated at connect time, that is, by putting your SSL directives at the outermost configuration level, or inside a  level for an IP based virtual host (not name based -- the host name is part of the HTTP request headers).  In your case, this would imply that you either (a) run a server on a non-standard port specifically for SVN, or (b) require client certificates for your entire https address.

Of course, you probably already know this, but hey, someone else reading your blog might not. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, we&#8217;ve been working around this bug for a long time now here at APNIC.  You can resolve it by ensuring that the strongest authentication you will need is negotiated at connect time, that is, by putting your SSL directives at the outermost configuration level, or inside a  level for an IP based virtual host (not name based &#8212; the host name is part of the HTTP request headers).  In your case, this would imply that you either (a) run a server on a non-standard port specifically for SVN, or (b) require client certificates for your entire https address.</p>
<p>Of course, you probably already know this, but hey, someone else reading your blog might not. :)</p>
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