Symphonious

It turns out the root cause of the problems I was seeing with Safari on Windows is that it simply doesn't support signed applets. That's pretty sad really. Apple seem to have implemented their own Java plugin instead of using the one that Sun provides (they're using the Sun JRE via their plugin) and of course it's missing most of the features you'd want from a Java plugin.

I'll report it to Apple officially just as soon as someone fixes the bug reporter - it's currently down. Perhaps there are too many people logging bugs against the new Safari and Leopard builds….

So Apple have released Safari for Windows - really no idea why, but they have. Sadly, just like on Mac it has terrible JavaScript and Java debugging support. In fact, it's worse on Windows than on Mac - anyone know how to turn the debug menu on? Anyone know how to get a Java console to appear?

I'd really, really like to make things work with it but all I can do at the moment is randomly guess at the source of problems.

UPDATE: You can open the JavaScript console with the keyboard shortcut control-shift-J. So JavaScript is now usable, but sadly Java still seems very broken and undebuggable.